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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:53 am 
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As ftlauderdale16 says, I use the CRC silicone spray, sprayed the track on the mast for the main sail. Makes it alot easier to pull up the sail!!

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:14 am 
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I don't know if I should load this as a new topic,
But,
I have been getting a mouth full from other sailors since changing my traveler and track. how can I find out if it is class legal. according to some people it is not legal to change anything on the boat and then there are others that say its not a problem since the track I installed is the same as what the tigers use " that apparently makes it official Hobie equipment"


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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 am 
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Regarding the traveler track question, I think this is a gray area, however, I think you're legal. Here's a link to the IHCA class rules: http://www.hobieclass.com/default.asp?P ... s/10773/0/. Go to page 18, paragraph 2.1. It says that, "The tracks shall not be altered, changed or added to in any way." One could argue that you would be in violation since you've change the type of traveler track from the original version, but someone else could argue that you are alright if a Hobie built track is on your boat and that track hasn't been altered, changed or added to. What does the word "changed" apply to? I think the latter interpretation is correct. I say that because the same paragraph states that "Any type of traveller cars that operate in the HOBIE CAT CO. supplied traveller tracks are acceptable." It would seem that if the IHCA will allow any type of Hobie supplied traveller car, consistency would dictate that they would also allow any type of Hobie supplied traveler track. Just don't make any alterations to it. You could probably get away with trimming it down a small bit if required to mount it on your boat.

Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:21 am 
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ftlauderdale16 wrote:
Snaacker1981 wrote:
This is what I did and it ended up costing a bit, but made the a really big difference.
change the main sheet traveler system to a 22mm Harken system.
Download the Harken manual from the web.
Buy a new Harken traveler car model 2728
and buy the 22mm small boat track.

Install and all round happiness :D this especially helps if you have a spi boat.
this is the same system that the Tigers use.


Is this setup race legal? :?:

No. Not in the slightest.

It actually works too well. When you're traveled out and try to sheet in, the traveler will move instead of the mainsheet coming in.

The "French" boats do not have a "ball bearing system" - they have the same system that comes on the US boats - the traveler car has larger, brass roller bearings that work much better than the original stainless steel pins.

Steve - the way to test whether the track is worn or not is to lift up on the traveler car while moving it from side-to-side. If it rolls smoothly, then the track is OK. If it stutters or jumps, then the track is worn (assuming there aren't any bent roller pins).


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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:22 pm 
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Harken one drop is pretty amazing stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:49 am 
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No. Not in the slightest.

It actually works too well. When you're traveled out and try to sheet in, the traveler will move instead of the mainsheet coming in.

The "French" boats do not have a "ball bearing system" - they have the same system that comes on the US boats - the traveler car has larger, brass roller bearings that work much better than the original stainless steel pins.

Steve - the way to test whether the track is worn or not is to lift up on the traveler car while moving it from side-to-side. If it rolls smoothly, then the track is OK. If it stutters or jumps, then the track is worn (assuming there aren't any bent roller pins).


that is a pity that its not even almost legal.. :-( This is my fast and furious non legal racer :-)
I meant to say brass roller pins.
cant I argue that the original stainless steel pin sliders are not available anymore, so therefore what other option do I have?

Unless you still get it in the US. Can you still buy the old system traveler.

I am a bit concerned that the system will work too well, since I haven't tested
it.

anywho thanks for clearing up this matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:45 am 
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snacker1981 wrote:
cant I argue that the original stainless steel pin sliders are not available anymore


Nope... still available.

Totally agree with Matt Bounds. Same issue on a the Hobie 20 and other cats that use a ball bearing track and car. They roll too easily and it is really hard to sheet properly with the car traveled out at all.

You would not be faster though, so who would really care?

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler Lubrication
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:31 pm 
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I'm reviving an old topic here just to post a photo of something I found - an original, late '60s / early '70s main traveler car - with the two succeeding cars.

The one with the large brass wheels has been standard equipment on new boats since 1996.

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