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 Post subject: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:40 am 
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I’m looking at getting a Pro Angler but my only hold back there is no sail kit available. Does anybody know if Hobie is going to make a sail kit for the Pro Angler?


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angker Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:57 am 
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The sail kit fits all Mirage Kayaks... so yes, fits the Pro Anglers too. The PA is a GREAT sailing kayak.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:27 am 
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If you look at the options under Pro Angler 12 or 14 There is no option for a sail kit.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:20 am 
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That is a funny issue here. Some fishermen are somehow... apparently... of the belief that sailing is not... fishing. Less Manly maybe? Our marketing team is then asked not to put sailing as an option on fishing product. They refer to the sailing mount as an "accessory mount" on the fishing boats for that reason.

The sail kit does fit and works well.

http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaks/accessories/sail-kit/



http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=12226

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:42 pm 
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In my opinion, any kayak fisherman that does not have a sail on his boat is missing fish. The whole thing comes down to being able to travel farther and faster, covering more water and putting your lures or bait in front of more fish.

On any day when there is at least a mild breeze blowing, I can go a lot farther, faster, than I could be paddling or pedaling. The difference is more than a bit. A lot more.

You will find it more convenient to be able to furl the sail when not actually using it, rather than having to haul it down and stow it away. Until Hobie offers a furling kit for it, you'll have to make your own, but it's quite easy to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9660_F0Cv8

This one is shown on a Pro Angler 14.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:14 pm 
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Fishing the marshes/creeks down here doesn't mean faster and further. It means knowing your water and hunting down the fish. It has made a much better fisherman of me knowing that I can't run and gun to the next spot.

However, I have been know to carry an umbrella on windy days :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Not for every day nor for everyone, but the option to go further and faster is just that, an option to do what you cannot do otherwise by paddling or pedaling.

One of my fishing areas is about 4 miles from the dock. With the sail, I can be there in half the time my other kayak buddies require. Which gives me more fishing time before they get there, and after they leave. If we were tournament fishing, that might be a big deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:28 am 
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On a smaller kayak like my Revo11, can I just pop the sail out and stow it with the paddle holder once I reach my fishing destination? This (and the fear of tipping over) is the only thing holding me back from purchasing a sail.

Might be time to buy/ask-for one, its Christmas time after all...


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:06 am 
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Yep... stow like a paddle along the side.

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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:08 am 
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waylonkayak :
Good choice getting the sailing kit, we have the sail kit on all of our Hobie Mirage kayaks, and always take the sail kits along and bungy them to the hull side whenever we go out, even river kayaking. Though we don't have a PA, we have owned or used most mirage models. I would think the added width and stability of the PA would be a huge plus.
The way I figure it you have to get where you are going to fish, and you also need to get back, with the sail kit you can easily double the effective range of the boat without exerting way too much effort peddling or paddling to and from your fishing spot.
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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:20 pm 
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On the Revo you can certainly pull the mast and store it and the sail on one of the paddle holder mounts. But you may find it less trouble to just furl it and leave it in the mast hole. It's really not in the way.

Furled, the mast itself doesn't really make the Revo tippy. A greater concern would be sailing and getting hit by a strong gust, which I believe could tip a Revo (the Pro Angler is wide enough to lean and spill off wind before going over). The answer is the Hobie add-on Sidekick system. Not very expensive and not at all obtrusive when not in use. Take it apart and store it in the hull when you're not using it. It's neither heavy and nor bulky.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:35 am 
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Don't overlook the forum specifically dedicated to kayak sailing... Lots of excellent advice & discussion on there.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:28 am 
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Tom Kirkman wrote:
In my opinion, any kayak fisherman that does not have a sail on his boat is missing fish. The whole thing comes down to being able to travel farther and faster, covering more water and putting your lures or bait in front of more fish.

On any day when there is at least a mild breeze blowing, I can go a lot farther, faster, than I could be paddling or pedaling. The difference is more than a bit. A lot more.

You will find it more convenient to be able to furl the sail when not actually using it, rather than having to haul it down and stow it away. Until Hobie offers a furling kit for it, you'll have to make your own, but it's quite easy to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9660_F0Cv8

This one is shown on a Pro Angler 14.


But Tom what about your beloved and mythical creature you refer to as Mrs 'Secondary Stability" lol. Surely you aren't recommending to us backwards folk in our PA's and OB's to get the sail kit and fish the continental shelf's of the world?.

While on the subject, Ive had my new pa12 in open ocean in a 2 meter swell, for me its similar on the debate about car drivers and roads, people like to blame the state of a freeway etc relative to perceived safety issues about the roads when a crash happens. But sensible drivers drive to the conditions.

In my pa I work work the swell and current and waves etc to ensure I dont capsize, so the feature of secondary stability is a really bizarre trade off for the comfort of being able to open hatches etc on the yak without you ending up in the drink lol


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:43 am 
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That isn't my "creature." It belongs to the naval architects who coined it and other terms to discuss and explain the attributes of various hull designs.

I have a PA and an OB and have used the sail on both with great results. The folks at Hobie have provided a sail with no more area than the boats they were intended for can handle under reasonable conditions.

As to how far offshore you choose to go, there is no substitute for good common sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Pro Angler Sailling
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:04 pm 
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i think the point that jervis and island are making... different strokes for different folks. making a statement that 'any angler is missing the fish', if they dont use one technique or another is a little bold.
while a sail might get one get to a school of landlocked stripers quicker than one's buddies, i can almost guarantee it wont help an angler stalk a pod of redfish in bull bay inside boca grande. 'every' technique may not be perfect for 'every' angler.
i think miller answered waylons question anyway, to a tee.

cheers.
drew

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