RHale and Pat I have no problem with someone designing a system of their own it only makes the idea stronger, what I do have a problem with someone copying someone else ideas and passing them off as their own as tpmister did.
ok, i cant stands it no more.
whomever 'stevek' is--a concerned citizen, a forum police office, an agent with the US patent office, the owner of the bassyaks site or whatever--every single post on this entire thread has been inflamed, accusatory and provocative. i guess i need to read some more of this fellows posts, because as my short experience is, im not sure i'd give much credence to his input. seems to have very little positive to say about anything other than support for this one specific product.
this last accusation is an out and out lie. the fella--tpmister, who is one of the apparent targets of his flaming said in his original post on this very thread that his design was a 'knock off of the bass yaks'. he did not appear to attempt to pass anything off, and gave complete and obvious credit to where he got the inspiration for his version. (Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:03 pm)
and as far as my search has found, he has not even come close to any infringement.
having 2 patents myself, one with specific ultrasound techniques, i have at least a little knowledge with patent law. if one wants to protect a property, one needs to be a lot more specific in ones design.
further, the initial post that created this thread was incredibly obvious as a spam--from whom or where i cannot say. (but stevek seemed hell-bent on defending the original poster. hmmm) actually i'm a little disappointed the moderators did not remove the thread before it got to this point. the original post was like 10 month ago? and the poster has never posted anything else. i think my bulldog is smart enough to see this as a spammer. but, the thread has actually proved to have merit through all this. for one, other ideas about motorizing a PA have come up--both with the 'sanford and son' techniques that some users steadily employ, as well as well crafted and designed techniques. batteries, props and other variables have been discussed which i'm sure have assisted some in their experimentation. from chaos comes order, to a fashion.
also, the poster who seems so bent on flaming everyone else's ideas has created the opportunity for many to regard further posts with some degree of question.
and for me personally, i will certainly consider quite carefully purchases from any online seller who might continuously bad-mouth Hobie products directly on their own site and degrade anyone with the will to investigate and experiment with their own design. not my kind of place to do business.