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 Post subject: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:52 am 
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Does the jib kit come with longer screws for the bow spreader pole tangs to make up for the thickness of the tangs?

(I ordered the bow spreader separate from the jib kit.)

Thanks, Lee


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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:53 pm 
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None are included / needed. Use the existing screws.

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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:37 am 
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thank you Matt.


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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:08 pm 
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lwright wrote:
Does the jib kit come with longer screws for the bow spreader pole tangs to make up for the thickness of the tangs?

(I ordered the bow spreader separate from the jib kit.)

Thanks, Lee


If you are going to be taking it on and off regularly, you might want to consider 1/4-20 x 3/4" hex head bolts. It is easy to round the phillips slots in the standard screws, and then you might be screwed!

You can get SS hex-heads at West Marine and even Lowes.

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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:04 am 
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I've been screwed before.

Thanks for the dimensions.

Lee.


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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:02 am 
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Do the bridle screws get frozen like the rudder pintle screws? I had a world class nightmare with seized rudder pintle screws which thread into a weird (SS?) plate. (Photos available). I've seen comments from some people saying the bridle screws get too LOOSE and having to be repeatedly tightened. I'm afraid of the opposite, breaking them off. I'm afraid to even try since the pintle screws snapped with light pressure.

Any comments on if the bridle eyestrap screws seize and what do they thread into? There are no access ports to fix a "screw up".


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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:52 am 
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Bow bridle bolts are much larger diameter than gudgeon screws, so less / not prone to failure in that way.

Threaded inserts in Wave hulls have been made from aluminum, stainless and now bronze. Bronze ones may have to use blue loc tite to hold the screw. Stainless galled and aluminum caused corrosion issues.

Gudgeon screws have used a screw called a long lock which uses a slot cut into the length of the screw and a nylon part to work like a "lock nut" to hold the screw in place. This smaller diameter screw combined with heavy stress, repeated tightening, and possibly the slot, could combine to snap easier.

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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:18 pm 
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OK, I tried putting some heavy pressure with a screwdriver on the bridal eystrap screws with none loosening. What next? It's a 1998 boat with lots of years in the hot Florida sun.

Suggestions have been to tap it hard with a hammer and try again. Another was to heat it with a small torch or large soldering iron. The next was to cool it with dry ice to shrink it. If it were an old truck I'd use a manual hand-held impact wrench and whack the hell out of it with a hammer. But it's made of plastic, not metal, and might tear away the backing plate under hammering.

What do you folks suggest before (I break something)?


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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:22 am 
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Heating should expand materials, so chilling might contract the screw. Use a thread penetrating oil. Vise grips on the driver shaft for leverage... tap the screw driver handle with a mallet while keeping a constant turn load on the driver. Like an impact driver. Help from a friend helps a ton doing that.

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 Post subject: Re: Bow spreader screws
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:35 am 
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Worse case...sell your jib kit on ebay. They really are not all that. Wish Hobie would design a better jib for the wave. I have one but rarely use it due to it no pointing well and flapping like crazy unless its trimmed mega tight. Does add a bit of power when your sailing off the wind a bit. But not worth wrecking a boat over! Going to add some hanks to the jib so the leading edge can be attached to the forestay...as it is it sags big time you can not get it tight enough. (noticed in an old late 90's Hobie Catalog that the jib kit had these)

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