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 Post subject: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:49 pm 
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What is best type of line to use for jib halyard on the Hobie 16?What is coming on new 16's?


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:48 pm 
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New boats come 21meters of 5mm Liros magic D-pro line. Can't get it in the US though, however I believe Samson Rope AmSteel Dyneema SK-75 is exactly the same stuff, when you compare the two on the Internet. It is also what is listed in the hobie catalog.


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:39 am 
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Any of the super-low stretch lines will work.

Single-braid Dyneema lines have a waxy feel to them, are very slippery and will creep under load until they are set.

Some like a double-braid (Dyneema core with with a harder cover), since it holds better on the cleats. However, the line is stiffer and doesn't coil up nicely.


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:35 am 
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Sounds good ,looking for recommendations?


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:38 pm 
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NEW ENGLAND V-100, OR ENDURA BRAID.

5MM


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:24 am 
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Thanks Gino :)


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 Post subject: Re: Jib Halyard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:31 am 
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Rich McVeigh is the line maven. He ran through a bunch of stuff before he settled on VT-100 (I think). It's one of the stiffer lines, and NER recommends an 8:1 sheave/diameter, so theoretically, you need a 40 mm sheave on the halyard, which is pretty big.

Running over a smaller sheave won't initially compromise the strength, but you'd need to keep an eye on it and end-for-end it when it starts looking tired.

I've got what came on my boat (a 2007), which is similar to Samson Amsteel - it's a Dyneema single-braid. It works well enough. Heavy air is the only place you're going to notice a difference, and there, a bit of stretch make help you by de-powering the main. The trick is to make sure you're always powered up enough through the lulls.

Kind of like a DN iceboat's mast flexes obscenely to absorb and power through the gusts.


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