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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:48 pm 
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I had my PA12 tipped for 45 minutes , didn't think about the front hatch until back on land. Boat seemed haevy, found the hatch 1/2 full and I stood on the hull when it was yupside down. It did not sink. 2o feet of water.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:09 am 
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so Old timers gasket material came from hobie? Do we have a part number or something?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:35 pm 
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My hull gets a good quart of water in it from just sitting on the trailer in a couple days worth of rain. Only thing I can figure is that it comes in around the screw holes. All hatches are shut and sealed, but the water still gets in!

In the end, it doesn't really bother me. I just chock it up to being part of enjoying a water sport. As long as I don't get wet in the boat and I'm still catchind fish I'm happy!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:16 am 
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I checked the Hobie catalog and found: 71301001 HATCH SEAL "TRIM-LOC". I think this is the stuff but can't be sure. If you call Backyard Boats, (800) 227-6132 they can confirm it. The material has metal in the seam that makes it almost impossible to remove once in place.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:53 pm 
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This kayaks hatches are sealed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vESpPSPan8U


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:56 pm 
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As a former submarine sailor I am familiar with the habits of seawater and its desire to occupy submerged unflooded space. The forward hatch could open when the PA is overturned if the locker contains something heavier than the the weight of the hull above it. Some water may trickle in if the seal is slightly compromised. But if you were to climb on the bow and force the hatch cover under water, sea pressure will force the hatch cover closed, improve the seal immensely, and stop any further leakage. another swimmer underneath the kayak would find it near impossible to pry the hatch open. Down periscope...


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:22 pm 
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Where did you find the Yeti tie-downs at and what was the price for a pair?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:49 pm 
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Oldtimer, did you also cut the hole in your hatch to run the strap through? If not, i imagine it still will not be water tight...
Lt. You can find a ton of rubber latches similar to the yeti brand on Ebay. They are just as strong and much cheaper. There is a different post where a guy used the same style of latch to secure his blackpak to his PA. I will try to post a link for you in a min...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:54 pm 
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Ok, not ebay but Amazon has these for $10 each...
http://www.amazon.com/Southco-Non-Conductive-resistant-aligning-flopping/dp/B002I05T9M/ref=sr_1_2?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1381699773&sr=1-2&keywords=rubber+draw+latch

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:01 pm 
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Lt.FireDog wrote:
Where did you find the Yeti tie-downs at and what was the price for a pair?

Hold on now... You are the original poster that I saw using rubber latches Lt.FireDog... Are you just seeing if the Yeti ones can be found cheaper??

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:56 am 
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No I didn't put a hole in the tub. It may leak a tad but I don't think so, the seals are pretty tight. I'll find out when I get to warm water and try it.

I got the handles at McMaster-Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/119/2925/=p7vvd0
Rubber T-Handle Draw Latch with Nylon Strike with Concealed Screws, 3-3/16" Latch Distance, 12065A81. $10.58/

How about that kayak/sub? That would open up a whole new world in kayaking and Hobie is just the company to do it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:45 pm 
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I flipped my Hobie PA 14 in Puget Sound, the PA took on water and after reentry it was filled to the h rail.

Worked with the Hobie dealer on Lake Union and modified the PA 14 with the following parts

6 x 84501921 Latch Kits
1 x 7200092 Rescue Step
71305001 HATCH SEAL
LARGE BULB (7.25’)

The video is the splash test, the PA had only about a 1/2 gallon of water in it.

[youtube2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELmMtf2yBwg[/youtube2]

Thank you Dan Carpenter for you help with this safety effort, I hope Hobie can review the modifications made here and review it with the engineering team to help make the PA safer.


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