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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 1:42 am 
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Had a mini brainwave, and undid one black bungee fitting on each side of the front hatch. Tied a new knot above the existing one, and then screwed the fittings back in.

The bungees are now a fair bit tighter, but still (just) possible to re-attach and hold the hatch down firmly.

Haven't tried it in rough water yet, but the theory sounds plausible. :P

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:17 am 
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I put an additional bilge pump under one of the front hatch bungee, haven't had a leak problem!

Same idea but a different method…. :D


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 10:07 am 
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I did the same thing with the ama bungees and it works great as well. Nice and tight. Much easier than some of the other solutions I have seen for the hatch seal as well.


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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 8:48 pm 
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Ok .. I was saving my SuperSimpleSolution for an after-trial review but I guess I'll let my hair down early and reveal it now ..

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:02 am 
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FraznDaf wrote:
I put an additional bilge pump under one of the front hatch bungee, haven't had a leak problem!

Same idea but a different method…. :D

Actually, that is just what I will also do with my bilge pump! I already have fitted a screw-in cap in one of my drink bottle holers, so not having to open a hatch to retrieve the pump is a real bonus. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:34 am 
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ok, not really a shower cap but my lawn spreader "bonnet" is what gave me the idea

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:01 am 
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I've never really had an issue with excess water entering the hull. Perhaps it's just the luck of the draw with the initial AI assembly……..dunno.

But installing the 'Splitter' has a 2 fold benefit in that some water is deflected away from the hatch, and also that the bungies require more tension to hold it on.

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P.S. Nice cap Alan. A photo of you skippering the Island whilst wearing the shower cap isn't necessary, honest. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 4:35 am 
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@ Tony: if works, go for it. People have to be careful about tightening down on the lid too much, or putting stuff under the bungees, because it is easy to distort (bend) the lid--then you really have a leak problem. Sounds like you did it just fine.

When camping, you have to be careful not to put too much gear in the front hatch so that you have upward pressure on the lid. If you do, then the bungees don't pull it down tight enough and you can have major leakage. Since I now put a lot of camping gear on the hakas or in the rear top storage, I don't have that problem with the front hatch.

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 6:07 am 
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Well I had serious problems with a leaking front hatch and there was no quick & simple solution. :(

If the hatch and the hull have a real mismatch you have to do more. :)

Still get some water in the hull but very small amounts and absolutely not one single drop is passing the front hatch. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:59 am 
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I have a TI and I don't think I have much issue there. I get some in from all the control ports. On a good reach the side of the kayak is pretty much in the water and being splashed continually... I just keep my stuff below in dry bags if it can't get wet... :?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:55 am 
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tonystott wrote:
FraznDaf wrote:
I put an additional bilge pump under one of the front hatch bungee, haven't had a leak problem!

Same idea but a different method…. :D

Actually, that is just what I will also do with my bilge pump! I already have fitted a screw-in cap in one of my drink bottle holers, so not having to open a hatch to retrieve the pump is a real bonus. Thanks!
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Hi Tony,
Where did you get this product from! I would like to purchase some for my kayaks for water removal.
Thanks!

Myak


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:57 am 
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One important factor I found is to "Burp" the lid. Give it a good push down. Sorta seats it. Night and day once I figured it out.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:04 pm 
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Myak wrote:
tonystott wrote:
FraznDaf wrote:
I put an additional bilge pump under one of the front hatch bungee, haven't had a leak problem!

Same idea but a different method…. :D

Actually, that is just what I will also do with my bilge pump! I already have fitted a screw-in cap in one of my drink bottle holers, so not having to open a hatch to retrieve the pump is a real bonus. Thanks!
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Hi Tony,
Where did you get this product from! I would like to purchase some for my kayaks for water removal.
Thanks!

Myak

I bought it through a local marine distributor (BLA) which might not be of much use to you where you are.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:24 am 
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Thanks for the reply Tony! I will check on-line and see if BLA ships to America.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:47 am 
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On second thoughts, I WON'T be using my nilge pump to tension the front hatch bungees, because if the fitting securing the bungee (or the bungee itself) fails, I could then not only lose the front hatch, but any means of getting water out of the hull! Too risky IMO. My pump lives under my seat hatch, tethered to the openng so it can't get lost inside the hull.

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