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 Post subject: Goose neck update
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:42 pm 
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Anybody know what the Hobie part # 50406261 consist of?

I have an old boom cap who's connector pin runs vertically - it's broken and I have a new cap from hobie with a horizontal version.

Will the above part get me ready to sail again?

My 17 is an 88 or 89


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 Post subject: Boom pin
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:03 am 
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You are refering to the boom pin? The current pin is flattened to fit in a hinge vertex. The pin rotates within the casting, so I am lost on the vertical / horizontal position of the pin.

A gooseneck update takes a VERY old 17 to current. The original pin was not flattened and a vertex was not used. In addition, the gooseneck in the mast base was allowed to move on a vertical axis. The old pin would connect directly to the gooseneck. Problem was they would bind and also scratch the crossbar.

The update kit includes a forward boom casting and pin, gooseneck, vertex and the connecting hardware.

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 Post subject: Goose neck update
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:26 am 
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I have the old style that is broken. Any idea if I can just get the vertex and connecting hardware as I already have purchased TWO forward boom caps?

Any idea on Hobies return policy on drop shipped items - I have gotten no respone from my local retailer on returning one of the forward caps I just purchased.

Thanks for the info. on the update - I will be ordering the kit.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:25 am 
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I got the new cap and this part
http://www.mariner-sails.com/partdetail.asp?id=23403
and mine works fine now. Hhad to get a new connecting pin though.

Doug


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 Post subject: Return
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:29 pm 
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Returns have to come through a dealer it was purchased from. We charge dealers a 15% restock fee.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:26 am 
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I am also perplexed, mcnealmike. Does the end cap include the casting?

I have a 79 '17. I suffered a dismasting 3 years back when port side stay separated. The gooseneck and the connecting pin were twisted beyond recognition.

My dealer sold me a new pin (with the flattened end), vertex bearing, and gooseneck. I removed the cap, took out the casting, replaced the bent pin, reassembled the whole thing and now the connecting pin sticks out about 2 inches from the cap. The pin has a small "collar" welded on that looks like it should be flush with the end-cap but it is easily 2 inches away. It used to flex a little side to side, so I lived with it but now it is jammed at an odd angle -it does not stick straight from the end cap.

If I need a casting, how can I find the part without buying an entire $72 upgrade kit that I already have most of?

Any spare parts out there - anybody? Matt?
Maybe I could use a new end cap if it includes the casting Mike. Give me a shout.

Thanks and Happy Sails,
Stephen

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 Post subject: any help out there?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:42 am 
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Just checking back in to see if anyone had something good for me -
have a great day!
-Stephen

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 Post subject: Casting
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:32 am 
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Each of the parts is available separately.

Just look at the parts diagram and order what you need.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:38 am 
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Thanks Matt - but the detail that I need is not on the parts list.

The part is a casting INSIDE the forward end of the boom, Behind the boom Cap-Fwd part #50512001.

There is a solid aluminum piece that the butt-end of the Gooseneck pin attaches to inside the boom cap.

I guess I need to know if there two different castings, one for the new Gooseneck pin and one for the older pin? :?
> Is that what the total upgrade kit contains?
> Since I have a "total upgrade" done piecemeal, can I just get the upgraded casting from someone?

Again, it is not on any parts diagram.

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 Post subject: Casting
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:00 am 
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The front boom casting is all there is... The boom pin inserts through it and is pinned in place by either an "E" clip (old style) or a roll pin. There is nothing else in the booom there.

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 Post subject: THAT's IT!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:05 am 
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:D Thank you Matt! A picture IS worth a thousand words.
I have forced the new style gooseneck pin into the old style casting. No wonder it sticks out about 3 inches... :roll:
Have a great day - again - thank you! 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Goose neck update
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:55 am 
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What is the design reason for having the gooseneck pin slide in and out about 1" from the boom end cap? Just Curious why the gooseneck pin isn't fixed in place. Matt?

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 Post subject: Re: Goose neck update
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:06 am 
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When sailing, the boom pushes up against the mast, so the boom pin is compressed into the cap. I'd imagine the 1" play is more of a universal pin fit issue (used on other models) rather than something specifically designed for the 17. They all move a bit which helps release stresses in certain situations.

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 Post subject: Re: Goose neck update
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:24 pm 
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Paul Bommersbach wrote:
What is the design reason for having the gooseneck pin slide in and out about 1" from the boom end cap? Just Curious why the gooseneck pin isn't fixed in place. Matt?


They did it just to mess with your head Paul!

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