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 Post subject: TAMING YOUR TIGER
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:31 pm 
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Hi there,

Last year I compiled a booklet called TAMING YOUR TIGER, using various inputs (incuding wisdom shared on this site), which my South African counterparts (who were also new to the game) found quite useful. The Tiger class has tripled in size in SA because of the upcoming worlds.

...anyway, TAMING YOUR TIGER can be found on my club's site at http://www.fhbsc.co.za/site/hobie/fhbsc ... erTips.pdf

It will be useful to new Tiger sailors and to those wanting to brush up. An update is due to be released soon.

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William Kieser


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:47 pm 
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SWEET.
I'm downloading it now for reading later. But, it looks well put together.


May we have perimission to pass this on, and stick it on our division website too?

Thanks for doing this.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:20 pm 
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nice info now if i can get my wife to understand it. it has to be her fault we're so slow.

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 Post subject: Wife for Crew?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:10 am 
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I've never understood how it's possible to have one's wife crew for one, but if that's what you're able to do, then the crew guidelines should really help her... and make it clear that if ANYTHING goes wrong its the crew's fault. (Perhaps that's why I can't sail with my wife...)

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 Post subject: PASS IT ON
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:38 am 
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Hi Don,

Please pass it on as you see fit. The more Tiger tamers that it reaches the better.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:14 am 
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Thank you and this really is good info. bieng a newby tiger sailer. but i do love the boat.
and how many 110lb wifes would let you buy a tiger and crew on it ? im a lucky one!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:42 pm 
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William:

Thank you very much for all the effort! I have sent you an email with a couple of ideas.

I will have it also linked from the NAF18 site when complete.

Eileen and I have been together for over 12 years and love to sail together. It all depends on attitude. There are occasional rough times on the water which have to be let go when you hit the beach or the dock or the start of the next race or the next tack or the next puff (best).

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Dan DeLave


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:49 pm 
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I have found that information very usefull to get started. From a post on this forum however we learned that the boat handles better with more wind if we use much more mast rake (first rudder gudgeon) in our case (155 kg).


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 pm 
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This guide is much more helpful than the tuning guide Hobie currently uses. The only thing you lost me on was the cranking down on the downhaul for light winds. Is this true? I thought it was the complete opposite...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:25 am 
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I think this is true for very light winds under 5 knots (smooth water surface, laminar boundary layer). For these conditions you need a lot of twist and downhaul helps.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:09 pm 
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William, That's an exceptional writeup. That must have taken some serious time and effort to put together such a well written piece. Thanks!

hobie18rich wrote:
and how many 110lb wifes would let you buy a tiger and crew on it ? im a lucky one!


Yes, your wife is pretty cool Rich. Like mine, they both put up with our "idiosyncrasies" shall we say. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:59 pm 
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BLR_0719 wrote:
This guide is much more helpful than the tuning guide Hobie currently uses. The only thing you lost me on was the cranking down on the downhaul for light winds. Is this true? I thought it was the complete opposite...


Its true. The issue is the top of the main hooking to weather in the light stuff. You have to release sheet tension so it does not hook and the leach tales up there stay happy. Putting some downhaul on opens up the top and allows you to pull a little more sheet in.

It is certainly faster!

Plus the downhaul makes popping the battens easier when tacking. We also crank it on for gybes in the light stuff.

As this guide says, once you are on the verge of flying a hull and single trapping then let the downhaul off. At this point there is enough pressure up top to stop the main hooking with a reasonable amount of sheet tension, and you want the extra power to get the hull up and reduce wetted area.

Chris.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:29 am 
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William
Thank you for these tips. I've read this thread about 5 times now and made alot of progress this weekend on my tiger. Its only the 6 th time i've sailed it but some of the black magik of spin sailing makes sence now. The tuning and setting guides as well as the adjustment break downs made my boat actually perform, and i got to run the chute for a couple runs with a hull up, and under control. Wow
Thank You
Also everyone who posted it makes my new boat more fun less intimidating.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:21 am 
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William, Thank you very much. Rigging my new Tiger for the first time today so this is bound to save me a lot of time and mistakes. Thank you for taking the time to gather the info in one, helpful guide.

-Charles-


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:05 pm 
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William,

Downloading about 280 kb of 1.59 mb and then stalling... Not sure why. Anyone else having problems?

Edit: Just takes a while.


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