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 Post subject: Installing deck ports
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:14 am 
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I just picked up a Hobie 17 sport and I have leaking wing sockets. I have made this repair before on other 17's but they were always on the rear sockets (install deck ports and fiberglass the sockets from the inside of the hulls). I will be installing deck ports aft of the front crossbar. Does anyone know how far back from the front crossbar I should mark the center of these ports? I'm not sure if there are any bulkheads in this area and I want to keep it as strong as possible. When I made repairs to the rear sockets I have always used 4" deck ports. Is it OK to use 5" deck ports in the front?
Just a reminder to those with 17's that live in cold climates. When you winterize your boats make sure you keep water out of the wing sockets or fill them with antifreeze. Sticking the wings in the sockets does not keep the water out. If water gets in these sockets and they freeze the ice that forms expands and breaks the fiberglass. This is my 3rd Hobie 17 and all of them have had broken leaking wing sockets.


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 Post subject: Hatch installation?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:03 am 
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No bulkheads there. Look and the front of the centerboard well for reference. I think the port should not be a problem if within reach of the forward socket. The centerboard well also tapers from the hinge point to the line opening at the deck.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:27 pm 
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Thanks Matt.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:59 am 
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What's the appropriate size deck port? Is 6" too big?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:35 am 
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6" is OK, but that's as large as I'd go.

BTW, there's an article on how to do this repair in the May/June '06 issue of the HOTLINE.

http://www.hobiecat.com/hobieclass/eHCA_Hotline05-06_2006.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:26 am 
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I think 4" ports are too small. My last 17 had them and I always scraped up my hand and arm getting in the boat. It would be very difficult to do any work with such small ports.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:47 am 
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I've used 5" ports in the past, and only when necessary for an internal repair.
Measure and cut the hole in the deck, cover the raw edges with masking tape, do the repair and then install the port.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:48 pm 
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17Again wrote:
I just picked up a Hobie 17 sport and I have leaking wing sockets. I have made this repair before on other 17's but they were always on the rear sockets (install deck ports and fiberglass the sockets from the inside of the hulls). I will be installing deck ports aft of the front crossbar. Does anyone know how far back from the front crossbar I should mark the center of these ports? I'm not sure if there are any bulkheads in this area and I want to keep it as strong as possible. When I made repairs to the rear sockets I have always used 4" deck ports. Is it OK to use 5" deck ports in the front?
Just a reminder to those with 17's that live in cold climates. When you winterize your boats make sure you keep water out of the wing sockets or fill them with antifreeze. Sticking the wings in the sockets does not keep the water out. If water gets in these sockets and they freeze the ice that forms expands and breaks the fiberglass. This is my 3rd Hobie 17 and all of them have had broken leaking wing sockets.


My 17 is sitting in my backyard.

...in snow.

...with no antifreeze in the sockets.

...the wings are in the sockets.

oops.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:27 pm 
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On my H17Sport I installed 5" ports center deck about half way between the wing socket and the front edge of the swing keel socket. There are no renforcements to worry about. With the port in this location, I have good access to both the wing socket and the front half of the keel well. It is also a good location for storage (I use fat bags), easily accessable while on the water and a good location for mopping out the hulls. I bought contoured ports Murrays), but found the contour was less than that of the hull deck so I silconed them into place and let it dry before drilling and placing the bolts and nuts. Good luck 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:51 pm 
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OK, so me being my usual self, I forgot that I needed curved base ports when ordering 6" ports from Murrays. Now I've got them, and I'm trying to come up with a way to make a spacer... or something. Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:27 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:59 am 
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lots of silicone rtv sealent may do the trick


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:28 pm 
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Get the right(er) ports. 5" curved on page 5 in th Hobie catalog. Got an authorized Hobie dealer close by?

http://www.hobiecat.com/company/dealer.html

Jeremy


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:05 pm 
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Surf City Catamarans wrote:
Get the right(er) ports. 5" curved on page 5 in th Hobie catalog. Got an authorized Hobie dealer close by?

http://www.hobiecat.com/company/dealer.html

Jeremy


Too late... my boat has the 6" holes already.

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 Post subject: wing socket repair
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:24 pm 
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I have in the past used marine-tex directly on area at which the leak is located on the inside of the socket You'll need to sand it to a smooth surface and you are good to go with out cutting a port.Try it first its a lot less work


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