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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:00 am 
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I think too it's a neat idea, as it doesn't weigh much and takes little room when not in use, a big criteria in nautical treks.
I'm in for the bivi as well as compared to the tent.

But truth be told, I still have in my mind the idea of a hammock, that could be really fine :
- no more problem with smoothing out the edges,
- no more splashes at night,
- tampering of the chop-related moves of the boat
- little space & weight when stored
- sheltered from mosquitoes

Only problem is how to fit it ?

Some ideas :
- it doesn't have to be of a long span if one likes to sleep on the side (I do), so the approximately 5 feet between the crossbars should be enough,
- hanging it too high is not desirable, what is needed is just the lowest point 2 or 3 inches above the edges when occupied
- sleeping in a fore to aft position should prove really stable
- hanging from the mast with the sail rolled onto it is a no no as it would ruin it
- hammocks simply eliminate the need for a tent as they can wrap you completely (hey, they were designed to offer protection in a pest-infested forest, weren't they !)
- why not some kind of support that would rely on the strong cross bars ? Something like two tubes in an inverted V pointing up ? My only problem is to find some way to keep them from moving fore and aft (I thought about some lines but didn't really find how)
:idea: :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:31 am 
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The Hammock idea is one I've given some consideration to. I thought about using pvc to make the inverted Vs with a circle bent around a shower pan drain. Attach the V to the crossbars and use the sail mast inserted into the drains to prevent the Vs from collapsing in and a line to hold them tight. I never came up with a good way to attach the Vs to the crossbars. I have a 35000 btu jet heater to bend the pvc which I would fill with sand to maintain the pvc's shape when bending around the drains. It also seemed like it might be a two man opporation to set up.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:40 pm 
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How about a pair of PVC "A" frames with feet made from split 1 1/2" slip "T" connectors that would straddle the cross bars (or akas), secured with Velcro. They would be prevented from collapsing inward by a line from the top of the "A"s to a padeyes at the bow and stern.

Or triangle frames sitting on the deck rails lashed to the sides of the xbars.

Or for a longer stretch/better support, a pair of collapsible easel type frames with the back support leg pinned into a deck mount of some sort.

Or some combination thereof. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:55 am 
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For sleeping onboard the tent cot seems like it would work if you place it sideways across the tramps. i don't know i haven't tried that. i believe they also sell it in bass pro shop outdoor world.
i haven't purchased an AI yet but i'm saving up for it.

http://www.tentcot.com/1.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:30 pm 
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IM NEW TO THIS FORUM BUT I BELIEVE THE TENT COT WILL PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA TO SLEEPING ON BOARD.
I DON'T HAVE AN AI YET BUT I'M SAVING. GOT TO GET ONE. I'M OBSESSED.
http://www.tentcot.com/1.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:04 am 
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Has anyone taken the hammock idea any further?
There's some interesting and creative ideas being floated around here but I don't think any of them are quite the perfect solution yet - getting close though! maybe just need a little modification :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:17 am 
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Some years ago I went camping with a mate who was in the army reserve. While I mucked around with my tent he unrolled a backpack size tent that 'blew' out into a waterproof inflatable base, a roof and mosquito net sides all in the time it took me to start to think about where I might pitch my tent. I have at the back of my mind that this miracle of camping was army issue but I didn't find out. Now that I have my AI I will however track him down and find out because it could frankly be perfect. If I can find out I will post it here.

Truth to tell I took so long about pitching my tent because I realized that I had forgotten to bring it. Luckily there was room for me and the two girls in the tent that one of them had remembered to bring.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:57 am 
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Brisailer wrote:
Luckily there was room for me and the two girls in the tent that one of them had remembered to bring.


I'd have left my tent home too.... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:17 pm 
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Were their names Inga and Helga?

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:19 pm 
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chrisj wrote:
Were their names Inga and Helga?

Or maybe Linga and Longa :roll: :lol: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:44 pm 
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Guess I'd better refrain from any comments about waking in the morning to find the tent pitched after all.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:32 pm 
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A life raft is too bulky and heavy. And they are not the driest thing neather.
I just hat my North Face Tadpole on, fits pritty well.
But it will still be difficult to enter it, build it up on sea....
would work in shallow water, eg mangroves.
Would be easy to make a foldable board to cover the seat area, and it would fit in the front hatch or the rear storage well.
But I don't see a situation when I would need this setup, so I won't go ahead and make a bord.
I better work on my glassfibre racing seat... :lol:
Got pictures, but can't upload them. (tent)
If anybody wants to see them let me know and I send them to you..[img]fotos.web.de/holgergoehr/AI[/img]
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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:08 pm 
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thanks for that guys - I guess I asked for it

the tent was just a swag with blow up air cushion. Difficult to find I suspect. I can easily see rigging a swag on board but without room to at least sit easily I suspect it's pretty uncomfortable. The swags you can buy now also get pretty bulky. It's too easy to camp ashore here. I thought that it had been made harder as a lot of the local bay is now marine park but it appears that it just means that you pay a small fee instead of camping free.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:09 pm 
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I have been set on the hammock idea also. I want to use one of these http://hennessyhammock.com/

You enter the Hennessy through the bottom which will keep you centered in the boat and you can sleep on your side which is important to me. It is also very good for hot climates and packs to almost nothing.

Well today I decided to try a proof of concept just to see if it were possible. Go to summers65 on utube and check it out. I wanted to keep it as simple as possible and as few parts as possible. I will now get the Hennessy and once the sizes are known all the lines can be made to just hook up in a few minuets. All of this on utube took just under an hour to do with the junkyard wars parts and pieces.

I started first with no guy ropes out to the ama's and it held me but wanted to move in ways that God would not have intended. I just ran some parachute cord out to the ama's and it became as solid as a rock. The PVC is thick walled 1 1/4 inch, sitting in a sawed off tee with the hose clamps on snug.

I had thought about an a-frame as suggested but didn't have enough pvc laying around so thought I would try a single post and it is plenty strong.

The young man in the video weighs about 150 and I weigh 190 and I tried it before I guyed it out so the weight is no problem unless we are talking 300 lbs maybe :roll:

Any suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping on board
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:53 pm 
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Very impressive Phil! 8)
Looks like you have it solved. Well done.
Thanks for posting. :)


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