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Matt,

I understand there is a new "Heavy Duty" cart with the black rubber tires?

Could you post the full selection of carts now (or near future) available and any comments (fit in hull, best use, weight limits)? Pictures?

Thanks!

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http://KayakingBob.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2007, 2009 & 2010 Hobie AIs and a 2010 TI

We took a standard frame and mounted the Heavy Duty wheel upgrade kit on it to make a

80046001 HOBIE HVY DUTY PLUG-IN CART



This is in response to a need for higher capacity use on the Pro Angler and The Tandem Island. The wheels are now 200 plus lbs cap x 2 or 400 lbs easy.

You now have a choice of 3 carts... Standard, HD and Trax 2

Standard best all around for hard surfaces

HD best for heavy loads, hard to semi soft ground and sharp / rough terrain

Trax 2 excels in soft sands.

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Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA

Thanks Matt!

Can the new standard frame be upgraded by us users with the Heavy Duty wheel upgrade kit?

Also, will the larger new sand tires fit on the older sand tire frames without modification?

It would be nice to be able to switch tires even if it takes a few min.

I love my old cart with the heavy duty tires, except in sand!

The new Heavy Duty wheels look great.
I agree - it would be ideal to be able to change wheels quickly as circumstances dictate.
I recently got a flat in one of my beach tyres which prompted me to buy a set of the plastic standard wheels.
Drilling two holes in each side of the axle and using some basic hardware, now enables me to quickly switch between hard or sand tyres.
BTW the puncture turned out to be on the inside section of the tyre - I mean the part of the tyre that is always covered by the actual wheel. I repaired it as per the Trax instructions - with a soldering iron.

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Mickey
2011 AI Golden Papaya
2011 TI Golden Papaya

To install the HD tire kit, we grind off the washer used to hold the spoke wheel in place, so could be done in the field.

Each has its own issues / design, so converting wheels back and forth is difficult. I think mickeymouse had the best solution. Get a Trax 2 and a set of standard wheels. You would have to drill a hole for the keeper pin to use the standard tires and maybe add a short section of tube to space the wheel outboard.

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Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA

Are those the solid Wheeleez Tough Tires?

These have inner tubes.

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Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA

Matt,

Should the heavy duty wheel cart be used for the tandem island, or would the Trax 2 work just as well? I may occasionally transport the boat over sand so I was thinking of buying the Trax 2 instead of the heavy duty cart, however, the tandem island manual mentions using the heavy duty cart. Do you know the rated capacity of the Trax 2? Or would the heavy duty cart work okay if I was only occasionally transporting it over sand? Any advice is appreciated.

The HD is the recommended cart for the Tandem Island due to its weight, but our engineers have suggested that the Trax 2 cart can handle it even though the capacity stated for that cart is very close to max when used on the TI.

Fyi... we have had ZERO claims for leaks of defects on these new Trax 2 tires.

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Matt Miller
Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Hobie Cat USA

Here's what 190 lb. combined weight looks like with the new Trax wheels.


This weight appeared to be no problem for the tires as I rolled the load over these 2 x 4s. The boat also pulled well. I would have tried more but I was a little nervous about the weight I was stacking on this borrowed boat!

PS I also tried this with the older Trax wheels -- couldn't even get close.

Excellent visualization! The wheels do appear to be grunting a little from the load though!

what is the price of the heavy duty cart?

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Sterling
2008 Papaya Adventure Island with Roller Furler Jib

Post about my jib
viewtopic.php?f=69&t=20991

@ roadrunner.

am I right in thinking that would be worst case scenario you have shown? as with a TI the point load weight would be spread more?

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Back in March 2008 I posted a detailed how-to on converting the Trax cart to the heavy duty wheels.
The details of this post have disappeared.
It involved using some thin SS tube as a spacer, a few washers and a Humpback clip that allowed easy swapping.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8956&hilit=+trax








I have been using these wheels and swapping between the balloon/HD tyres easily since then, putting many hundreds of kilometres on the HD wheels without problem.
Back then the HD wheels were only available for the original cart.
It’s good to see that Hobie have improved the troublesome original balloon tyres
and are now offering the HD wheels as an option. IMO the Trax 2 cart plus HD wheels is the best way to go.

It is wider, more stable and has much better balloon tyres. Using the same system of spacer tubes (slightly longer), washers and humpback clips the wheels can be easily swapped to suit the terrain.



Also see Roadrunners Trax 2 review here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16179&hilit=trax+2

Looks good. I've got the HD wheels on my cart. Found they turn better with a bit of grease on the bush. Seems to take the load off pulling the AI.

Did you find stainless R clips? The boating place I went to only had zinc coated ones (I think) and my hardware store ones I got without thinking are rusting. I've slowed the rust down with a good squirt of Lanox though.

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