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 Post subject: Rudder Conversion Help
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:29 am 
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How much work is involved in converting to the new rudders?

What do I need to have? (silicone west system tools ect.)

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:08 pm 
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drill
measuring tape
silicone

Pretty easy. I've never done it before but I've read the instructions and heard from Dan Delave how easy it was. Maybe Dan can chime in here with a response.

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:52 pm 
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Is there an instruction for mounting the new Gudgeons?
Pictures or measurements?

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:31 pm 
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hobie18rich wrote:
Is there an instruction for mounting the new Gudgeons?
Pictures or measurements?


Absolutely! It's really pretty simple. All you need is a torch and a sawzall. Oh, and a big giant sledge. A welder wouldn't hurt either, just in case things go sideways.

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:05 pm 
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Thanks Jeremy.

I was wondering do I reuse the old holes and if so which holes in the transom line up with which ones in the gudgeon?

Sawzall , torch , sledge and axe are ready. And a really big drill. anything else ?

Rich

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:11 am 
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hobie18rich wrote:
Thanks Jeremy.

I was wondering do I reuse the old holes and if so which holes in the transom line up with which ones in the gudgeon?

Sawzall , torch , sledge and axe are ready. And a really big drill. anything else ?

Rich

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:40 pm 
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MBounds wrote:
Backhoe.


Backhoe? No this is a backhoe. 187,000lbs of backhoe.

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Required equipment for all sorts of catamaran related activities. Might work for cutting those mitres too Matt. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:59 pm 
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So if I follow this correctly. Cut the rudders off with the sawzall. Weld the pieces back together. Then dig a big hole with the backhoe. Put the boat in the hole cover with dirt. File as stolen and claim insurance , and buy boat with new rudders already on it.

I miss anything?

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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:58 pm 
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I think you got it. It should look like this when you're done


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:39 pm 
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Tom, was that in Bloomington MN? That happened a few years ago, France Ave I think is finally done. Spurred a huge project.


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:30 pm 
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Wouldn't get too excited as have not seen a standard conversion yet as everybody has a different idea. I would definitely advise to glue them also. I tried to to fit them to old holes with the gudgeon upside down with catastrophic result. Now have fitted the right way up and also made a new backing plate as the plate glassed into transom does not go low enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
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 Post subject: Re: Rudder Conversion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:31 pm 
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Quick Question.
Instead of drilling and taping new holes and filling in old holes could I just cut a spacer out of Aluminum and reuse the stock holes?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:19 pm 
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After doing some research, I would just install the replacement gudgeons that came with the new rudders. There have been no reported failures from doing this upgrade. Use some backing washers and through-bolt the bottom screws where they don't hit the laminated aluminum plate.

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 Post subject: Rudder Conversion Help
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:37 pm 
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I dont think Rich will have to work with the ProSeal that much....
The tag line says hes going quick build wings and fuse..

Looking good on the Rudder Rich, keep at it.


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