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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:29 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:05 pm 
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Hi Kep,

Great plan and well illustrated! I'd like to give it a try.

After some more testing I'd be interested in learning if you still favor the 1/8 size vs. maybe 3/16"? In heavier winds, does the BB tend to pop off the Velcro or is that arrangement holding up well? Any trouble installing it in wind? Any changes you might recommend?

BTW, your wirenut handle is pretty slick! 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:43 am 
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Great modification, must try that myself, I agree that the sail does not have a good shape without a boom.
Had my first sail with the outriggers last week and it was great, much easier to handle those freaky gusts.and you can actualy stand up to furl the sail.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:51 pm 
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Kepnutz

Thats a great design.

I did something similar using carbon fiber stock - like the stuff used for stunt kites and arrow shafts.

I didn't use velcro but instead just used the natural pocket that is the the hem of the sail.

You can cut a small hole in one side of the white hem of the sail - just below where the eye is. The you can just slip the rod into the bottem hem, from mast to the eye. No velcro needed.
Just remove the rod when you need to roll up the sail.

It is a great improvement to downwind sailing. It's like adding a boom.

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Kepnutz.

Rip-stop nylon works best if you cut it with a pencil point soldering iron. It will cut the fabric and then melt the threads back so that they don't fray any. Much like taking a match to end of a nylon rope.

When you look at the white hem it is folded over and has 2 sides. The slit in the hem is cut only on 1 side of the hem, near the bottom and on the mast side of the sheet eye. The slit is only about 1/4 long - just enough to slip in the batten.

It is just a matter of puffing out the hem - so that it is more 3D and not flat and touching the iron tip to just one side of the hem to make a small incision.

Anyplace that sells stunt kites should carry an assortment of the graphite rods. Or hunting stores that sell arrow shafts, tips ect. Or just use the plastic rod you were going to use. The graphite rod I use is very strong, light and has very little bend

The pic shows an arrow nock on the end of the graphite rod to make insertion easier. The rods come in 3' lengths so I cut 2 to 26" and used an internal ferrell in the middle.

Works well for all points of sail.

Hope this helps



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Kepnutz

I found that what the standard hobie sail lacked most was good downwind sailing. The Hobie Bravo has an accessory boom that one can buy and add to improve downwind sailing.

To this end the stiffer graphite rods seemed best. There is still a wing shape to the sail with the boom/batten. They will bend when stressed and because of the strength and lightness are used in many stunt (2 string) kites.

The magic about using the small cut and sail hem is that you can insert any material you want and experiment. Wood dowel, graphite rod, plastic or fiberglass.

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Hi Kepnutz
Thanks for the idea. Is there any other source of the 1/8 rod. I checked it is 1.95 for the rod and $7.00 shipping. :(
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